Public opinion is marked by anxiety and skepticism regarding the ongoing military conflict between India and Pakistan. Concerns focus on the implications of India's suspension of the Indus River Water treaty and the potential for escalation due to both nations' nuclear capabilities. Discussions reflect cynicism about repeated clashes between the two countries. Despite detailed discussions on military engagements, the overall sentiment is dominated by worries about a possible larger conflict and its severe consequences.

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Any claims of the HQ-9 exported to Pakistan being destroyed? I haven't found any evidence. It seems the current series of events is proving that Chinese air defenses and fighter jets are working as advertised.

Hope1995x

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1921167407193719142?t=98cK-_bIRSCL0jU9Jg_z6g&amp;s=19


Another Pakistani Bholari Air base targeted. No images of the damage so far.


But at this base 5 Airmen died


https://x.com/OSPSF/status/1921186977824522338?t=DWN1lAvbgjvNf7KLrlyFiA&amp;s=19

Secure_Ad1628

I would say at least three Indian fighter was down. One can be confirmed as Rafale. One is Russian, and one unknown because the site was quickly secured by army as the debris killed a civilian.

Pakistan likely lost a C130 during a base attack

All the base attack are inconclusive and likely to be minor damages. The number of missiles fired by both side is unlikely to do significant damage to any base. In fact there is evident one of the Pakistan's damaged airfield can resume operation already (https://x.com/MonitorX99800/status/1921046196526764375?ref\_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1921046196526764375%7Ctwgr%5E265368e478cc27574eba2390f7bcf4d958e1c25d%7Ctwcon%5Es1\_&amp;ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sinodefenceforum.com%2Ft%2Fthe-kashmir-conflict-2025.9174%2Fpage-257)

Kaka_ya

IIRC there was a Mirage 2000 loss which  was initially wrongly labeled as JF17. But I can't find the link to the video right now.

Quirky_Pea5497

janggansmarasanta

I am surprised no Pakistani jet was downed, the Indian S-400 should have made that a trivial matter. 


Also at Beas it's unlikely that the missile storage stie was the one hit. https://x.com/corneliusmzu/status/1921058892269695210?t=hrY4nRXb2tttRIcSoepjBA&amp;s=19


Also this satellite image shows damage in the runway of a Pakistani base 
https://x.com/OSINTWarfare/status/1921171210416611662?t=SfGOMseM2qwg2zrdDoVCRA&amp;s=19

Just seeing that this one is missing 
https://x.com/Roberto05246129/status/1919930446546149408?t=2iQRMAOludnaZduXauwcow&amp;s=19
Ignore the comment on the tweet the important part is the wreckage of what looks like an aircraft with two vertical stabilizers, it was shows on indian news, could be a SU-30MKI by the looks of it but could also be a large drone.


Not sure if that's enough to be counted. I have looked around and a lot of other hits seem to have occurred by loitering munitions over India, either direct hits or by debris of the ones intercepted. But those aren't really worth putting up.

Any confirmation on what the Russian jet is? A mki or a mig29?

As an Indian, I would like to hear what the neutral people here think  , after all the attacks

ComprehensiveSmell40

PatrickGigachad007

I saw a Pakistani source (https://x.com/dumbkookiies/status/1921184494163247307) saying that a SAAB-2000 at the Bholari base in Pakistan was damaged in an airstrike, but I did not see any specific information about it elsewhere. Now there is only a video on X showing smoke after the airstrike on Bholari. I wonder if anyone here can find more conclusive information?

AlexCliu

here's a more clear satellite image of nur khan airbase from a chinese satellite [https://x.com/zhao\_dashuai/status/1921445605764653313?t=BYhy3sibxsBkUrPVFbmypA&amp;s=19](https://x.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1921445605764653313?t=BYhy3sibxsBkUrPVFbmypA&amp;s=19)

seems to match up with the other image already in the post

AHM-757

https://x.com/zarrar_11PK/status/1921597663553679463?t=NYgKzY_2Uf0xdDGecOEZyg&amp;s=19


New footage 

Its indian BSF (from iconic hat) stating in Kashmir (topography and locals language) that one of indians jets was shot down (hence cant be from prior accidents)

This confirms some sort of russian jet in Kashmir being downed

zeey1

Missile strike on Kirana Hills bunker site near Mushaf/Sargodha base

https://youtu.be/ojFIOGQZkIk?si=_cp8v1t6GGjtrfg1

There’s a shorter clip posted on combatfootage as well

hubmash

I believe Indian side lost atleast 3 jets. 1 Rafale, 1 Mirage &amp; 1 Russian. 

Pakistani side casualties include, terrorist sites, a C-130 &amp; air bases. 

As confirmed from independent analysis

Bullumai

Pakistan seems to have lost a C-130 , my Pakistani mutuals seem to be of that opinion . They also lost several of pilots from the missile attack today . Some hit the hangers in an airbase known to house F-16s but no confirmation .

We also know that Indian drones/LMs hit one or more Gun based AA and either an HQ9 or HQ 16 system was taken out according to Indian reports . There's a pic out there but it is not the command center . That said the claim is plausible considering the largely free operations of indian munitions (or Chinese AD can't work pick your poison)

CorneliusTheIdolator

One addition: Moderate resolution image of Sargodha RW 32/14 shows sign of moderate damage

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Very well written and an enjoyable read, Although I would’ve liked to see more talk about the role of drones in modern warfare, we’ve seen Ukraine use them very effectively to defend and Pakistan has also started using it against TTP, I imagine it would be a big part of warfare if it starts.

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&gt;Secretary of State Marco Rubio says India and Pakistan have agreed to an immediate ceasefire and to start talks on "a broad set of issues at a neutral site."

&gt;In a post on X, he commended the nations' two prime ministers on "their wisdom, prudence, and statesmanship in choosing the path of peace.”

&gt;Rubio said that he and Vice President JD Vance had spent 48 hours with "senior Indian and Pakistani officials," including Prime Ministers Narendra Modi and Shehbaz Sharif, ahead of the ceasefire.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/asia/live-blog/india-pakistan-rcna206000

magic_missile

I think the biggest news people are overlooking is India suspending the Indus River Water treaty...

  
I don think people realize the amount of devastation India can cause to Pakistan thanks to this.

  
Majority of the water that Pakistan depends on... comes from India. If India decided to slow the flow of water into Pakistan, there is little they can realistically do to stop it. And if you want an even worse case scenerio, Imagine if India temporary halted the flow of water with Dams... then released it all  rapidly... That would create a tidal wave of water rushing into the rivers, potentially flooding or destroying any town in their path, of which there is many in Pakistan.

LibraProtocol

i_hate_cars_fuck_you

Does Pakistan support the terrorist groups in Indian-controlled Kashmir?

The news articles I see say “India claims” and “Pakistan denies”

But surely there’s some intelligence source or other news that can provide some context if India’s claims are likely true. 

octopod-reunion

This is crazy bad holy shit. I have employees in both countries I'm freaking out 

Jswazy

I’m not saying it’s ok but this is like what? The fifth or sixth time Pakistan and India have got into it like this. 

I still remember watching the Kargil movie 2003 was it?

SovietRobot

Is it possible that a nuclear war between these two wouldn’t end in a nuclear winter?

conn_r2112

The US needs to maintain diplomacy on both sides, call for de-escalation and stay out of it.

News_Reader17

&gt;India Launches Military Operation Against Pakistan

This is a war that started under Trump

Fun-Outcome8122

Babe wake up! ww3 started and it wasn't trump!

Frosty_Wampa4321

Would be interested to hear some analysis about the strain this might put on Russia's military hardware manufacturing. India buys a lot of their weaponry from Russia

andysay

Sir_Tmotts_III

"Is this the beginning of the end of everything?"


Everytime something unexpected happens, I have this sort worry.  It's irrational, but I'm feeling like everything is so strained and frayed right now. Who knows what happens next?


We're living in an age of anxiety.  

prizepig

I think this is where China/UN needs to step in cause Trump is gonna sit back and watch.

yasinburak15

[CNN:](https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/india-pakistan-attack-kashmir-tourists-intl-hnk?t=1746570674856)

&gt;Pakistan’s military claims it has shot down two Indian Air Force aircraft.

&gt;“There are two confirmed aircraft of the Indian Air Force have already been shot down,” Lt. Gen. Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry, spokesperson for the Pakistani military, told CNN’s Jim Sciutto. “There are other reports of multiple damages that the Pakistani forces, both on ground and air, have inflicted. But I can confirm you at least two aircraft of Indian Air Force that have been downed,” he added.

&gt;CNN cannot independently Chaudhry’s claims about if the planes were shot down. We are reaching out to the Indian Ministry of Defense for comment.

The_Grizzly-

This thread is an hour old as I’m writing this. I’ve done 0 research and honestly don’t care about India or Pakistan. Apparently, they both have nuke, so that’s definitely cause for concern. 

How will you go about learning about the conflict the next couple of days? I’ll read AP, maybe the BBC, and see how a few subreddits are reacting probably tomorrow. 

I doubt most people will care as much about this conflict as I/P or Russia/Ukraine. How do you expect conservatives will go about learning the conflict too? 

NPDogs21

bigbjarne

A_Child_of_Adam

Is it a confirmed theory that every country Vance visits, sees a major change (usually for the negative)? He went to the Vatican, and the pope died. He went to Pakistan, and they're starting a war. What's next on the agenda?

Bitter-Battle-3577

This is the first time two nuclear armed nation states have ever openly engaged one another in direct military conflict, correct?

EDIT: Not the first time, but still very scary.

Ares_Nyx1066

So, which side do we fund and send weapons and then pretend to be pro peace?

TicketFew9183

In a normal world the US President would be on the phone with their counterparts urging restraint. My guess is Trump is focused on phone calls to businesses to invest in his cryptocorruption.

ThePensiveE

So even though many people globally have probably forgotten does any one remember the 2002 standoff in the indo pak region and the talk of nuclear escalation? Stuff like this is what people need to watch out for.

Anglicanpolitics123

[89 seconds til midnight seems optimistic at this point.](https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/)

CincyAnarchy

This is how end of Pax Americana looks like. Hope Global South enjoys it.

Fluffy_While_7879

Thank goodness we have such talented diplomats in the Trump Administration.

Also, you can tell that Indians are not huge soccer fans. No European country would launch a military strike during injury time of the Champions league semifinal between Inter and Barcelona, *especially when the match is this wild.*

PepinoPicante

Thank god we are out of Afghanistan. Holy shit what a cluster fuck this would be if we were still there. 

Key_Elderberry_4447

WhiteLycan2020

This is an escalation, but a relatively tame one.

Ghostfire25

I said oh shit when they announced cutting off water. This is serious.

Kakamile

Good thing this aren’t hyper-nationalistic, unstable nuclear states…

Toroceratops

War is so fucking stupid. I'd encourage anyone to donate to relief efforts and hope this doesn't escalate into a full blown conflict between two nuclear powers.

cpashei

Odd-Principle8147

&gt;India Launches Military Operation Against Pakistan

fun

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In May 2025, a significant military conflict unfolded between India and Pakistan, marking one of the most extensive confrontations in decades. The escalation began on May 7 when India launched 'Operation Sindoor' in response to a terrorist attack in Pahalgam, which killed 26 people. Both countries engaged in extensive drone and missile exchanges, showcasing advancements in high-tech warfare.

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